Kiwi bodybuilders better than Aussies??

[musclewarrior]

Alex looking ripped!

[Outlaw53]

Originally Posted by The Bodyguard

Alex is about as natural as a dog with 2 dicks!

We hear the same over here with Warren Clampit not being natural.
I'm not sure what the point is of accusing competitors of not being natural just because of hearsay.

Can you prove that Alex isn't natural?

I have yet to find anyone with anything on Warren.
No one has ever sold him gear, heard him asking for gear, heard him asking questions about gear, seen him out the carpark with the local dealer etc, etc.
No one has anything on him whatsoever.

Added to that, he has passed every single drug test he has ever undergone, even the old bullshit lie detectors.
He is now tested by ASADA/WADA and has passed every time.

I don't know Alex as well as I know Warren, but I dare say its the same with him also.
Does anyone have anything on him?
If you have any proof then you should produce it, otherwise this is simply just another run-of-the-mill bodybuilding rumour.

I think Alex has a great physique, but like I always tell Warren, "Mate, if you are on the gear then you need to increase the dosage".
Same goes for Alex.

I don't think either competitor looks geary to me.
They just train hard and eat strictly.................it's just that they do it better than the rest of us.

[Patricia]

Alex doesn't really look natural to me,just going by photos. I am not saying he is not, but I can see why one would assume. That said, I think it's a compliment to him and his physique.

I mean really....what male bodybuilder wants 100% of people to assume he's all natural...that is code for "looking like crap". Whether it be Warren, Martin Sifredi, Tim Martin, Tony Haranas, Ryan Laos...or any of the Americans like Layne Norton, Dave Goodin etc....if a bodybuilder is not accused by someone of using gear that's not really a good sign for his physique IMO

If every single person in the world says "Haha! Yes that guy is natural, I can clearly see that!!" it generally means the guy is totally out of shape, small and generally looks like crap.

I spent years with no one accusing me, and it was [seriously] beginning to worry me. Anyone with even a half decent physique gets accused of using gear, I was like WTF do I look that bad that some scrub cannot accuse me of using gear? Finally some moron was like "she uses steroids", I wanted to hug them

[MuscleandBrawn]

Anyone know his height and contest weight? I can tell you if he's clean. Believe it or not, geeks like me have developed a formula based off 300 natural champions of the past.

Here is the formula...

H = Height in inches

W = Wrist circumference located at the hand side of the bony lump on the wrist (known as the styloid process)

A = Ankle circumference at the smallest measurement

BF% = The bodyfat percentage at which the ankle and wrist circumferences were

Boiling the formula down for simplicity sake, using the wrist and ankle circumference from LARGER THEN AVERAGE LIFTERS, and a 6% bodyfat percentage is…

H^1.5 (0.31037632)

So, knowing a natural's height, there is a very small percentage that he will exceed the following weights at 6% bodyfat. If he does exceed these weights by more then 3 pounds, he is HIGHLY suspect.

Height, 66 inches = 166.4 lean body mass potential. Competition weight = 177.0 pounds

Height, 67 inches = 170.2 lean body mass potential. Competition weight = 181.1 pounds

Height, 68 inches = 174.0 lean body mass potential. Competition weight = 185.1 pounds

Height, 69 inches = 177.9 lean body mass potential. Competition weight = 189.3 pounds

Height, 70 inches = 181.8 lean body mass potential. Competition weight = 193.4 pounds

Height, 71 inches = 185.7 lean body mass potential. Competition weight = 197.6 pounds

Height, 72 inches = 189.6 lean body mass potential. Competition weight = 201.7 pounds

Height, 73 inches = 193.6 lean body mass potential. Competition weight = 206.0 pounds

Height, 74 inches = 197.6 lean body mass potential. Competition weight = 210.2 pounds

Height, 75 inches = 201.6 lean body mass potential. Competition weight = 214.5 pounds

Height, 76 inches = 205.6 lean body mass potential. Competition weight = 218.7 pounds

[Patricia]

Congrats MAB, I think you have just made the geekiest post in the history of bodybuilding boards.

Is this a chart of mathematical equations I see?



Interesting though, I can honestly say never before have I seen someone whip out a chart like this.

[MuscleandBrawn]

Ha! I majored in mathematics and astrophysics.

BTW, all the details are on my site...but my post above is the meat and potatoes.


Seriously, you list him about 176 competition weight on your site, but he looks much bigger then that. Is he really short?

[Patricia]

Originally Posted by MuscleandBrawn

Ha! I majored in mathematics and astrophysics.

I believe you

Originally Posted by MuscleandBrawn

Seriously, you list him about 176 competition weight on your site, but he looks much bigger then that. Is he really short?

Thats an approximation, the weights we list people are always general, just what info we can get that is reported. I have no clue, he does look pretty big though. Leigh or Outlaw would have a better idea of his definitive contest weight.

Either way he def has a very, very good physique. Here is a shot of him from when he won the CCI - Outlaws show.

[jimmy]

Alex looks good but he's as natural as a 98 year old mans erection.Not sure why these guys even bother to lie.

[MuscleandBrawn]

Here is the current natural Olympian, Tim Martin.

http://naturalbrawn.com/2009/03/profile-of-tim-martin/

[MuscleandBrawn]

Seriously, anyone experienced in BBing knows to look at the guy. No pure natural has a thick ass midsection. Not hating on anyone, just keeping it real.

I'm shooting for my natty pro card this fall, and there's no way I could compete against Simays.